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care. john nichols and ruth connip join me. >>> lindsey graham's response to criticism to his attacks on susan rice, but republicans still have some explaining to do. bob shrum and tara dowd will join me on that. >>> and ohio secretary of state is hatching a new scheme to rig future elections for republicans. nina turner, state senator from ohio, will join me. share your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using #edshow. we're coming right back. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology brushes for a superior clean. oral-b power brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." today, two big food chains actually changed their tune on obama care. the ceo of papa john's now says that he will go along with the affordable care act without punishing employees or customers and a major denny's franchisee has
'll cover that with our headliners. senators dick durbin and lindsey graham. plus our powerhouse roundtable. matthew dowd, joe klein, ruth marcus, david sanger of "the new york times" and peggy noonan of "the wall street journal." >>> then ben affleck. >> you saw your parents killed? >> with war breaking out in congo, he's here live on what can be done to stop the fighting. >>> and -- >> i'm jonathan karl, i'm going to show you how this clipper will bring bipartisanship to washington. >>> hello, again. you just saw one small step for bipartisanship, is there more to come in washington? congress is back to work this week. top priority, a deal to block those automatic spending cuts and tax increases now set for january 1st, and some smart money is starting to bet that the president and congress will find a way to avoid that fiscal cliff. stocks up this week in anticipation of a deal with the dow clocking five straight of gains. and black friday consumer spending was down as well. now let's bring in t number one senator dick durbin and top republican lindsey graham. senator, welcome in. senato
revenue on the table. >> how's that for a profiling courage? senator graham is standing up to a pledge he made to an unelected official in charge of a group that most americans never heard of. a pledge that's 26 years old. but at least graham is voting to raise taxes on the wealthy. right? wrong. >> raises tax rates will hurt job creation so i agree with grover we should not raise rates. i will violate for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> so he won't raise tax rates and entitlements need to be gutted. but that's more like it. let's see some more brave talk from the gop. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. there's a menu of options on the revenue side and on the entitlement side and as long as there are two parties that are willing to solve this problem, this is a very easy thing to do technically. what it takes is political courage. >> guess what? that political courage doesn't include ding, ding, ding, higher tack rates for the top 2%. but don't pay any attention to that. republicans want us to know that what's really important is that they are rej
cain and lindsey graham are so busy attacking susan rice. well maybe it's because -- think about this, if the president can't appoint susan rice, then he would have to appoint john kerry and that would open up a massachusetts senate seat for scott brown. so it could all be a way of getting back another republican in the united states senate. don't know for sure. just sayin'. all right. we'll look into that and a whole lot more here but first standing by with today's current news update, lisa ferguson in los angeles. hi lisa. take it away. >> hey bill, thanks. good morning everyone. as president heads to meet with leaders of the business world this afternoon politico is reporting that john boehner and his leadership team are making plans to meet with some of these very same executives. now the irony here is that obama and boehner still have no plans to meet themselves face-to-face. the two did meet before congress' thanksgiving recess along with the other two three members of the house and the senate. they had plans to
mentioned, while senators graham, ayotte and mccain are focused on what susan rice, ambassador rice said on the sunday talk shows, they are not asking any questions at all about the real questions about security there at the consulate in benghazi. that's where their interest and focus and ire should be pointed. not at a u.n. ambassador who went on the sunday talk shows as a spokesperson for the administration giving, imparting the information she was given by the intelligence community. >> and susan, for those just joining us. this happened moments ago in the last hour. i want to remind everyone what the three senators had to say. take a look. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before that the 16 september explanation about how four americans died in benghazi, libya, by ambassador rice, i think, does not do justice to the reality at the time. >> clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the american people was wrong, in fact, ambassador rice said today abs
elected tammy baldwin the first openly lesbian senator. sorry, lindsay graham. yeah. you missed the lindsay graham joke. it was a pretty good one. ( laughter ). perhaps the best news was in florida. after months of republican governor rick scott attempting to suppress democratic voter turnout, and attempting to decrease voter discomfort and my favorite introducing a 10-page novelette state ballot to people who couldn't handle a ( bleep ) one-page ballot. florida remains too close to call. what is the good news, you say? the election was decide without them. ( applause ) ( cheers ) for once, florida's cluster ( bleep ) is irrelevant. it's like hearing good news, america. the tumor on your dong is benign. ( laughter ). it's a joke about... come on. we're tired! for the most part, the news naeks acquitted themselves nicely with little of the early called controversy and malfunctions of years past, except b.m.n., bull ( bleep ) mountain news, who were caught flat foot bide a historic storm did spite all the evidence just days before, they never saw coming. >> i think mitt romney is
be embarrassed, so should lindsey graham. they should be ashamed of themselves. they look like they're beating up on some woman who doesn't deserve it. >> stephanie: they look like bullies. that's why i'm glad we gave money to the trevor project. bullying is bullying. lindsey graham standing up and saying, she shouldn't have said anything. do you think they would have been screaming cover up? >> caller: i want to make one comment. i know darn well before the meeting with susan rice, i betcha anything john mccain said no matter what happens no matter what she says, we're troubled. >> stephanie: i think they set her up. they said, we're willing to listen and softening on her. they set her up so she'll come and talk to them. and then they open it up again. >> and they made sure they were closed door meetings so you wouldn't know what susan rice said, and they come at her any way. >> we're nor troubled now than before. well what did she say? >> stephanie: go ahead. >> caller: i thought it was a set up. even if she said something really good, remember our lines are going to be we're still very trouble
in and conservatives are starting to stray with conditions. here is south carolina senator lindsey graham. >> ly violate the pledge, long story short for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> that's a whole nother conversation. on the issue of taxes warren buffett has written an op-ed in "the new york times" today renewing his stire to see taxes go up on people like him and him himself. in the op-ed he says people who make between a million and $10 million should see their taxable rate go up to 30% and those who make more than $10 million should be taxed at 35%. we'll be back after the break. see you on the other side. as i looked out across the battlefield at antietam. i saw the future of one great nation. but only barely, because the sun was like, way in my grill. george mcclellan, the general, hands me his pair of foster grant sunglasses, and i could see! my wife, mary todd, found them so fetching. >> he looked so fine i started to call him babe-raham lincoln. >> i was like, mary, please. >> you look like a baby,
carolina senator lindsey graham also broke ranks saying the norquist pledge can no longer be a conservative litmus test. >> when you're $16 trillion in it debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece. but i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if it democrats will do entitlement reform. >> but a bipartisan consensus to raise taxes grows, republicans insist they won't budge on kaepg the bush tax rates for the wealthiest at 33% and 35%. they've expressed more openness to raising revenue by eliminating individual loopholes and deductions in the tax code and believe they have public opinion on their side. boehner aides point to a new republican poll. in the survey 61% say they prefer a deal that raises revenue by reforming the tax code, lowering rates and closing loopholes. just 28% favor raising rates on those making over $250,000 a year. shocking nobody wants to raise taxes. in national exit polls, a full 60% supported raising tax rates on americans making over $250,000 a year. it's all about how you word the questi
. and you look everybody is saying it, john boehner, mitch mcconnell peter king lindsay graham, on and on and on. all of these republicans coming out and saying we agree, you can't do it by spending cuts alone. you have got to raise revenues and we're on board, and we're willing to break the grover norquist pledge. these guys have totally recognized the american people agree with obama, and so therefore they are going to change their ways. here is my advise to all of you, all right. don't believe it. this is a con game. this is a shell game that the republicans are playing. let's listen to some of the voices. here for example is saxby channedless. it's valid now but times have changed significantly. and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year old pledge. >> bill: oh, yeah. he is setting himself up there as oh, man, i love my country, more than i love grover norquist. peter king yesterday. >> i agree entirely, a pledge you signed 18 years ago is for that congress. if i were in congress in 1841 i would have signed the declaration of war agai
and even saxon chambliss and lindsey graham all said the same thing. we want revenue and are willing to generate revenue, but not by raising taxes. it is very simple. the president does not want to -- the president only wants to tax the rich because he said it during the campaign about 1 million times. millionaires and billionaires. a family of two that makes $250,000 a year are not millionaires. the problem is we are not opposed to revenue. we are opposed to a tax increases. lindsey graham said exactly that and peter king did too. it is against raising taxes. there are other ways to do revenue. the democrats don't like those other ways. it is called growth. that brings in more revenue. and readjusting the tax code to bring in more revenue. you don't have to raise taxes on anybody. host: let's go to jim in new castle, delaware, on our republican line. caller: good morning. the reason we have to be against tax increases and for spending cuts is to just show that we are a different party than the national sociologist parted as running the white house and the senate right now. economic
being made by mccain, by lindsey graham, and by senator ayotte of new hampshire is that this ambassador to the u.n. went on all the national shows, including "meet the press," in mid-september and basically tried to delay the news because it would get out eventually, that it was al qaeda that launched this attack. does that pass the smell test? that somebody would knowingly do that knowing the truth would be coming out in a matter of days? >> they still don't know who was responsible. there are links to al qaeda, they say, but links is a broad word. those links can take many forms. i think this is all a political red herrings. >> you're with tom ricks on this one. >> the main question is why was the consulate in benghazi still open when the administration, when even the ambassador acknowledged that the threats against the united states was rising and security was -- >> and the answer could be we had cia agents in that area -- >> absolutely. >> -- that needed to be protected. ambassador susan rice met with her strongest critics on capitol hill today to answer questions about benghazi, an
. rice will sit down with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. in recent days, senator mccain has softened his criticism as rice insists that she was relying on talking points from the intelligence community. last night, senator graham rejecting her defense but says he's open to today's meeting. >> she asked to meet with us and now we'll listen to what she has to say about her role in benghazi. the more i know about benghazi, the more upset i am that the consulate was even open on september 11th. when you look at the history and the reporting coming out of libya about the dangers, it should never have been open or heavily reinforced. after the attack, i think the story we were told about a spontaneous event caused by video where a mob turned into a riot is less credible than ever. >> she reportedly called the meeting. seems like a smart move. what do you think? >> well, i think it's a smart move for john mccain to take the meeting. they're boxed in. this is not a fight they want right now. it was a stupid fight to pick. they put themselves into a corner and now they've
. so let's see. john mccain, lindsey graham, blah blah, have accused the white house of stripping for political reasons. the director of the c.i.a. and now current intelligence officials have said no. intelligence agencies changed it not the white house. i don't understand why we're even talking about this still. let's see. he said the intelligence community made substantial analytical changes with the talking points were sent to the government agency, partners for their feedback. there were no substantive changes made to the talking points after they left the intelligence community. period. another anonymous official echoed him saying they were made based on intelligence and legal purposes. first the individual about the individuals linked to al-qaeda was derived from classified sources. classified. second were so tenuous. they still are. it makes sense to be cautious before pointing fingers so you don't set off a chain of circular and self-reinforcing assumptions. third is it important to not prejudice an
to them, somebody like south carolina lindsey graham says i would raise taxes although if i could get into one ironclad guarantee of entitlement reform, a series of things that democrats will never give them. but when "the new york times" or cbs reports that conversation or talk by lindsey graham, they see lindsey graham said i do want to raise taxes. full stop. and the rest of the conversation disappears. so the challenge and, i say this was leaked, i don't think he intended to have a public conversation but if you say things in front of 150 people -- >> and it was in an interview. >> then he meant to get it out. but by doing that than, all they did was have a conversation about other ways to raise taxes. if you are trying to figure how to rein in spending, we are sitting here talking, a handful coming in, as you say over 90% of republicans have taken the pledge. they all kept by the way. given all this talk but somebody might break the pledge. a handful of people have in your thoughts that under certain circumstances speed is what do you mean by in your thoughts because meaning they
graham on "meet the press" over the weekend, saying we're watching you. secretary clinton in cairo keeping contact with president morsi, what are republicans in washington looking for as our two governments are trying to resolve this together? >> well, we're looking for balance, of course, and looking for our government for secretary clinton to represent our best interests in these negotiations. obviously, everybody wants to see peace in the middle east. and now we have the challenge of dealing with fairly awe and untested -- not regimes but new administrations. and so there's a lot of uncertainty in that part of the world, a lot of urn certainty with regards to whether or not there will be peace. we, of course, our prayers are with the families that lost loved ones in these terrorist attacks, and we're praying for peace in that part of the world. but clearly we want the u.s. to stand strong and want secretary clinton to be successful in negotiations. >> we did play that sound earlier from secretary clinton condemning the hamas attacks, the rocket fire on israel, as terrorist attac
was too high. my father and ben graham and i said "listen, i want to get going." i don't want to go to college. >> rose: you'd already been going because you'd been investing since you were 11 years old. >> that's true but now i'm doing it full time. (laughter) >> rose: the first time you met this guy you were doing a piece. before you met him you were doing a piece on a hedge fund guy named -- >> alfred wins low jones. very famous. >> rose: very famous guy and the name buffett came up. >> sam stamen, a bridge player, was an investor in this strange thing called buffett partnership limited. >> rose: yeah? >> and i just blithely went ahead and spelled it with only one "t". so the first time he was ever in "fortune" we misspelled his name. i say "that's the editorial "we" because it was i who did it. >> and it's the only mistake she ever made. she's never been wrong. >> (laughs) >> rose: your husband, john loomis, met him first. >> yes, he did. >> rose: and said what? >> he said "i think i've just met the smartest investor in the country." and i'm sure like wifes do i rolled my eyes a
of her as a spokesman for the administration. one suspects that senators graham and mccain and ayotte have other reasons for opposing her and are using this as an excuse but it's fairly flimsy because while there are legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in benghazi -- >> but dana, hang on a second. if you have a problem with susan rice, let her be nominated, challenge her, and go through due process. why do this on the basis of intelligence that she had received that's consistent with the information that she was given by the cia? >> not only is it illogical, it is counterproductive because they're putting the president in a position of saying he's going to nominate her if he wasn't before because now he's not going to look like he's caving in or backing down. so they're going to achieve the exact opposite of what they're purporting to want. >> absolutely astonishing. goldie, conservatives, as we know, are attacking ambassador rice for admitting that the initial intelligence was wrong in one respect, that there was no process in benghazi, but she's admitted that the in
with ayotte and graham and mccain coming out to talk about the fact that they're meeting with ambassador rice leaves them scratching their heads and with more questions? of course people want more answers to what happened in benghazi, but it's not up to ambassador rice. she's not fronting the investigation. >> no, but she's been part of that team that went on those sunday shows to talk act those issues to say it was a video that caused this. whether it was the talking points or the intelligence, she's the one in front of the tv cameras that said this. this is an audition to be the country's top diplomat. she's going into a hostile group, we would want her to have a better relationship after, not worse. she had three senators she knew she wasn't in a great relationship with. they seemed to be more open to her over the weekend. she went into a meeting and made it worse. regardless of what you think about susan rice -- >> were they really going to listen to her and come out and be, like, oh, god, we love susan rice now? i don't think that was ever going to be the backside of that meeting. >> no.
with his buddies, and doesn't do the lyndon johnson and so people-- you know, i remember katherine graham, the publisher of the "post" used to say it's very hard to not like someone who says they like you. well, obama sends the message, you know, "i'm really out of tune with you." >> schieffer: the other side of it is, there may be some people on the other side that are flotall that friendly-- are not all that friend lead. >> they have to come to dinner if you ask them. it is both sides. i think the other thing is obama, for whatever reason, has not had a partner in his view, who can make this deal. and it does require, i think, doirs is right, i think it requires both party bases to also give permission for compromise. the middle way is not always the right way. compromise is not itself a virtue. but until we find a better system, which we haven't yet, we have to figure out-- >> but the extraordinary power of that office of the presidency, you've all written about it. and in this era, the obama era now, the concentration of power is even greater. and so the influence he can have-- certai
norquist said as long as you don't raise tax rates that is okay. and lindsay graham on that. >> i agree we shouldn't raise rates but i think grover is wrong to cap and buy down debt. what do you do with the money and i will violate the pledge for the good of the country only if the democrats do entitlement reform. >> gretchen: i think the pledge thing is good and bad. if you are a republican and believe that raising taxes is the wrong they think that and fine. but ham stringing politicians and many people lost election over there and turns out times change. peter king is also saying he's going to go against the pledge who agreed to it years and years and his reasoning that times have changed. here is the caviat . you are a republican and don't want to raise taxes and willing to compromise a bit, the democrats have to compromise with entitlement spending there. is a way here to find common ground and get away from the all or nothing pledges that the american public many of them were upset about the grid lock. >> brian: it is all symbolic. that brings 80 billion a year and would pay ian volv
. senators ayotte, graham and mccain, republicans who had from the get-go before they talked to her vowed -- or threatened to block her nomination. so that was one thing. today is different because that senator you just played, susan collins, is among the last remaining moderate republicans here. she does have a lot of information about what happened because she is the top republican on the homeland security committee, and she actually has a history of supporting susan rice. she was the one who introduced susan rice when she was at her confirmation hearing for the post she's in now as u.n. ambassador. so the fact that susan collins even has questions, i asked her point blank if she could support rice for secretary of state, and her answer was not yet. she has to have other questions answered. that's not a good sign for rice, but we should underscore a couple of things. one, she hasn't been nominated yet. and, two, she -- rice does have a lot of support from democrats who still have the majority. the issue is whether or not she'll need, if she's nominated, 60 votes to get confirmed. >> wha
if obama goes forward and decides to nominate rice. >> there is a john mccain and lindsay graham, they have threatened to block her possible nomination. mccain called her comments not very bright. as result he and others are accused of being racist. is questioning her qualifications specifically following her benghazi statements, do you think that is racist? >> democrats have been certainly suggesting that. of course republicans say that is ridiculous. you look at graham and mccain who have been constant critics of the obama administration but you look at center, susan collins who has strongly supported rice in her lowell as u.n. ambassador praised her at her initial confirmation hearing. collins is saying that rice has to answer the question or she won't vote for her. that is major problem for the administration. i think it's a good move by rice she is trying to dial it down. she is willing to meet mccain. the temperature has to come down a little bit in order for her to possibly be nominated. if at this level it will be tough. >> heather: should she still be nominated? >> i think it will
against him. in fact, saxby chambliss is one of them. bob corporal, lindsey graham, i have been in office for a number of years and i never see the need for raising taxes on hard-working americans. if you put a dime on the table in washington, they will find a dollars worth of spending it. raising taxes to me is not the answer. it doesn't matter whether you sign the pledge to someone down washington or not, you really have to make a pledge your constituents at home and what are you going to do for them to all those promises? >> we did some research and found out that if we don't extend the bush tax cuts, we don't have enough revenue to run the government for more than 8.5 days. >> that is correct. it's a drop in the bucket. i think if you pass that one buffett tax and that's only 4% of it. that's not going to solve the problem. it's a spending problem, not a revenue problem. >> well, tomorrow when he returned, it will be interesting. >> okay, congressman, thank you so much and it's great to see you again. he wants know what all of you to get home. here's a question to tonight. congressman
with -- she will, meet with john mccain and lindsey graham and a couple of other senators and try to explain herself. she shouldn't have to do that. i think it is embarrassing. kevin is calling from chicago. what do you think kevin? >> caller: hey, how do youing, bill? >> bill: good to hear from you. >> caller: if they were a legitimate news organization, wouldn't you go with the fact -- take whatever your guest says and you go with it. but since everybody knows they're the mouthpiece of the republicans, i find it amusing that they're so inept they don't even see what their guest is going to say. it is like how dumb are they? it just reinforcing the bumper sticker on my car as i drive to work this morning. fox news, the more you watch the less you know. >> bill: i like that! send me one. where did you get it? kevin, it let me tell you doing a lot of tv, making a living at it. whenever you're a guest on program like that, they do what's called a preinterview. they don't tell you the questions they're going to as
strategist boris epstein. richard, i'll begin with you, richard graham has been a hard critic of president obama. they are now hailing the cease-fire deal. they released a statement yesterday praising prime minister benjamin netanyahu for reaching the truce. however, did you notice no mention of president obama or secretary clinton? what do you make of that? >> honestly, that statement was sad and pathetic they cannot take off the partisan blinders at a time like this. and i think what it does is it hurts their credibility going forward in the international stage. they were ones very much on susan rice's back about benghazi and the possibility of her being secretary of state. but they have showed themselves being totally incapable of displaying any objectivity. for them to be praising the muslim brotherhood and palestinians but not their own president and secretary of state who clearly and unmistakably had a big role in bringing this bombing campaign by hamas to an end. that is really not right. and the contrast frankly is what governor christie in new jersey did, president obama stepped u
grover norquist deniers on tv. it's easy for lindsey graham and saxby chambliss to get on tv. but when it comes down to the actual vote, that's a lot harder for republicans to do, especially in the house of representatives where they can get a primary in 2014, get a lot of republicans up who could face tea party primaries. this is a small group that's jumped off the grover bridge. i'm not sure it's going to spread to everyone. >> i'm glad you mentioned that. to accurately reflect where grover is coming from, it is true that in the "wall street journal" this weekend he said, look, there are about five republican who say get quoted by the media all the time up against me where his numbers are 219 house members, 39 senators have signed. a couple may have dropped as we're reporting today, but his point is the media loves the narrative that there's a rebellion but it's not there. >> and if you look at what's happened at a granular level in the house, the number of crossover districts has gone down since the election. so in some ways house republicans have less reason to reach across the ais
mccain and lindsey graham, don't go after her. if you have an issue with someone, come after me. and so that's the clearest indication yet that susan rice is probably at the top of the nomination heap. >> indeed. jonathan capehart, lynn sweet, thank you both. >> thank you. >>> next, want to avoid holiday traffic, daily commutes, and offices altogether? run for congress. stay with us. with verizon. this monday online only. get the droid razr by motorola in cranberry, free. or a white 7-inch samsung galaxy tab 2, just $99.99. this holiday, get the best deals on the best devices on the best network. exclusively at verizon. >>> after a brief break for thanksgiving, the majority of americans made the trudge first back home and then back to work this morning, but this did not include our esteemed elected members of capitol hill. oh, no. with an urgent need to address the fiscal cliff, support our economic recovery and consider the unrest in the middle east, congress has the day off. in fact, the house has spent just 109 days in the office this year. nice work if you can get it. nbc's
is meeting with senators john mccain lindsey graham and kelly iop. they have been critical of her remarks in the aftermath of benghazi. she described that as a spontaneous attack based on the in tell she had from the intelligence community. there could be some substance to the plan that president obama plans to nominate her for secretary of state. she will meet with other lawmakers later this week. president obama has been unwaiving in his support of her calling republican attacks on her outrageous. >> according to official announcement, the president of mexico and the president plan to talk about economic development and bored concerns. while there is no second sit down scheduled for the president and congressional leaders he did speak to john boehner and harry reid over the weekend about avoiding the fiscal cliff. the president will meet with small business owners today. tomorrow he meets with middle class americans who would be affected by tax hikes and more business leaders. friday he's going to travel to hatfield pennsylvania where he will give campaign style remarks to get support f
of her most outspoken critics, republican senators john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayotte to set the record straight. rice had gone on five sunday talk shows days after the attack and called it a spontaneous demonstration sparked by an antimuslim film and did not mention the link to al qaeda. after all this taking on her critics, the republican senators weren't impressed. >> bottom line, i'm more dist b disturbed now than i was before that the 16 september explanation about how four americans died in benghazi, libya, by ambassador rice, i think does not do justice to the reality at the time and in hindsight clearly was completely wrong. >> rice maintains she did nothing wrong. issuing a statement saying we stressed that neither i nor anyone else in the administration intended to mislead the american people at any stage of this process. peter brooks is a former deputy assistant secretary of defense, general wesly clark and, of course, former democratic presidential candidate. senator mccain was asked who do you blame more at this point? ambassador rice or president obama? he says
senator graham said this was for failed nomination of mr. bolton. and then they mentioned her in response to the 1990 african embassy bombings. there were two. take a listen. >> what troubles me so much is that the benghazi attacks in many ways echoes the attacks on those embassies in 1998 when susan rice was head of the african region for our state department. >> i should say that susan rice couldn't remember and wasn't able to give any particularly detailed answer, so they started with benghazi that failed. now in 1998. how long will it be before they ask for ms. rice's birth certificate? >> you know, i don't know. and i'm surprised by senator collins because she is a moderate within the republican party in the senate. usually a level-headed person. to bring the two together is a little extraordinary because in one benghazi, susan rice has, as richard eloquently said a moment ago, has nothing to do with anything in benghazi except she went on television to talk about it. but the situation in -- the bombings in the 1990s, while susan rice was in the clinton state department and, you know
met with because they had been among her harshest critics, senators graham and mccain. today's meeting was different because she met with a republican who was among the remaining centerist republicans in the senate -- one of the most likely to throw susan rice a lifeline. it didn't happen. >> i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of a contentious presidential election campaign. >> reporter: after meeting with rice for more than an hour, collins emerged questioning her judgment in giving the public what turned out to be incorrect information in the days after the deadly attack in benghazi. and the main republican was lukewarm about the prospect of rice as secretary of state. if president obama were to nominate susan rice to be the next secretary of state, could you support that nomination? >> i would need to have additional information before i could support her nomination. >> reporter: collins has gone out of her way to support rice in the past. even introducing rice family ties to maine at a c
this issue after he was re-elected. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador, who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> susan rice spoke up in defense of herself the day before thanksgiving. >> when discussing the attacks against our facilities in benghazi, i relied solely and squarely on the information provided to me by the intelligence community. i made clear that the information was preliminary, and that our investigations would give us the definitive answers. >> republicans appear to show no sign of moving on, setting up what is likely to be a vicious confirmation table. all right, yi'm not trying to - i'm being honest here, i don't quite get the susan rice focus. you can say, diplomatic security services, the people that turned down the funding request, you can say hillary clinton at the state department
to the idea of higher taxes broadly. we heard over the weekend senator lindsey graham, congressman peter king, joining in --. megyn: but they're talking about closing loopholes and deductions that is what romney ran on and it has been republican position for a while. >> they just discovered it. where were they when the republican standard-bearer needed that support? there is lack of intellectual integrity surrounding this entire issue. if they had any shame in washington, d.c. they would be embarassed. >> they are political animals. they have to think what is sellable to their constituents. when the simpson-bowles debt commission got together and we have to tackle the debt and it will kill us all, they said, what if we raised the age of social security retirement one year. went to 68. did it in 30 years. not going to do it right now, 30 years. dick durbin, wanted that. i will sign onto that, a democrat. we don't have the time. we have a dick durbin sound bite. dick durbin said that. he was in favor of that. >> i can't stand it. we're losing dick durbin sound bite. megyn: time is short. the po
, senator lindsey graham, and ranking member john mccain spoke to reporters. u.n. ambassador rice is expected to meet with more individual lawmakers later this book. their briefing with reporters is about 10 minutes. >> we have had a very candid discussion about dr. rice and deputy director of the c.i.a. where significantly troubled by many of the answers we got and some we didn't get. evidence that it's overwhelming leading up to the attack on our consulate, the tragic death of the brave americans, and whether ambassador rice was informed sufficiently in order to give the american people a correct depiction of the events that took place. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. what she said it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hate grouple of it is not. there was clearly evidence at the time that was certainly not the case. including statements by libyans as well as other americans. people don't bring mortars and rocket propelled grenades to spontaneous demonstrations. >> i'm more disturbed now than i was before that the 16 s
xrooe hensive immigration reforce. >> i think ted cruz. lindsey graham and john mccain. i think people like paul ryan nf the house. people who come out of a sort of reagan-esque, kemp-esque pro growth camp within the republican party. i think there's a big opportunity for them to weigh in on the debate. >> when people talk comprehensive reform the big issue, a big issue, probably the biggest, is there a path to citizenship for people who were here. governor romney was firm on that point. did he leave the party on immigration in a bad place? >> i think the party has been suffering on the issue of immigration for years. i think the problem transcends mitt romney. i don't think his position helped the -- helped the republican problem but it predates him. the failure of mccain/kennedy was something republicans got blamed for. in the 1990s there were some really nasty debates and very few, you know, very few republican voices willing to stand up on the side of immigration reform. we've been suffering -- look, there is a nativist, isolationist protectionist strand within the republican party
graham -- if the democrats gave us significant 10 to 1 entitlement reform i could, even though i promised people of south carolina i would not, i would vote for a tax increase to get this fundamental entitlement reform. i said, have you ever met a democrat willing to do that? i said, senator, you are offering a tax increase and return for a golden unicorn that the not exist and i did not stay up late at night because he said, look, anything that is not entitlement reform baked in the cake is phony. he is very dismissive of other people who lust after promises of tax cuts. he is going to be having a much tougher deal. so, i don't think that -- no, the commitment by the modern republican party house and senate, governors, is to reduce spending and not to raise taxes. although one can get a congressman or senator talk about a hypothetical and get in trouble. i usually call them after it has been in the paper and say, did you mean to endorse that? i have had discussions with corker and so as well. i do not think the d's will offer anything on spending that we even -- that would even tempt som
that sometimes have conversations you look at lindsey graham who would say -- and i talked to him and he said of the democrats gave us a significant 10-1 entitlement reform, i could even though it promised people in south dakota, south carolina that i wouldn't, vote for a tax increase to get this fundamental entitlement reform you haven't met a democrat willing to do that? nobody is elected. senator, you are offering a tax increase in return for a golden unicorn that doesn't exist. he said the anything that isn't entitlement reform isn't baked into the que. he's very dismissive of other people that left after promises of the tax cuts. he's going to be having a much tougher deal. so i don't think that this is a -- the commitment by the party in the house and the senate is to reduce spending, not raise taxes although one can get a congressman or senator to take about a hypothetical. i usually call them after it's been in the paper and said did you mean to endorse that? no. so the discussions with corker as well. i don't think that they will offer anything on spending that would even tempt someo
done. the republicans' most concerned about this are folks like lindsey graham who are very worried about the defense cuts. will the republicans' desire for a strong national defense overcome their concerns for raising taxes? i do not think republicans will raise tax rates. i do not think it will raise capital gains. will democrats go along with that? state-owny tuned. host: are there other republicans you're waiting to see come out and send signals? guest: i did nothing so with king. he is been a modern big city republican. nothing wrong with that. the republicans that are signaling that might be amenable to a deal are the usual suspects so far. will somebody rise that will surprise you? that will be the question. i do not know the answer to that. it is incredibly difficult. there is an incentive to not compromise. "compromise" has become a dirty word. host: susan in manassas virginia. go ahead. caller: hi. right when you for started talking i thought this gentleman gets it. the more you talk, i felt you do not get it. it is about policy. what they stated is in the platform of the
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